• Harrison baron

#95 - Comic Book art with Lula Lukas & Stacy (trascribed)

Welcome to another episode of The brutally honest Podcast. I am your host, Harrison Baron. And as always, thank you so much for tuning in. I really do genuinely appreciate it. The fact that you take time out of your day means the absolute world to me. Now I'm going to do something a little different than I normally would do today, as always, brutally honest podcast on Facebook, Instagram, Instagram is getting a bit more active really been trying to focus on that and grow it and it's been growing pretty successfully. Thank God you want to be I want a media company.


website new website is just is basically done at this point I'm waiting for at least I think I'm going to release it in the new year. New Year. New Me that whole shtick but that's pretty much it. If you want to follow me Harrison underscore Baron, I'd love to connect with you. If you have any ideas or you want to talk about the podcast, I would genuinely appreciate the talking or the messages of that you'll send me or anything like that.

But I don't really want to talk too much about that. Today I'm going to roll into something totally different and it's related to my guests on the show. My friend Lucas and her friend Stacey little is a comic book artist and Stacy is her dear friend and probably one of our biggest supporters and you could just see the love and passion for the both of them both what Lula does as an artist and Stacy is a supportive friend and they both actually work together and you'll hear more about that in the show But enough about that what I really want to talk about is the holidays are coming and I normally would never do anything like this I I firmly believe in letting people choose what they want to do for the holidays or support whatever they want to support for the holidays but I was specifically asked and I'd be more than happy to mention this so there is for any of my Long Island listeners a comic book store sorry I'm swallowing a lot also kind of thinking again second not too sure can't win was really sick couple weeks ago and that's why the podcast was not I didn't have a voice and I think it's coming back in a very nervous but there is a comic book store on the land called grasshoppers, comics It is located in I'll get you that information one second. But what they do is on


is up to date. Some first Saturday

they hold an event each year, the raffle of hundreds of prizes to raise money for the john Thiessen Children's Foundation, J TCF, which fills holidays, wishes of terminally ill and underprivileged children in hospitals and shelters throughout Long Island. It's a very powerful

charity, I don't mean powerful and the fact that you know, they have money and stuff like that powerful meaning

children need our help, in my opinion, more than anybody else in the world. I personally know that have people know people that have had the john Thiessen Foundation, touch them, and

they're doing a fun drive for basically breaking down from what it looks like, at least bring down toys, anything like that. And then you donate, go hang out, meet some really cool people that are really genuinely trying to change the world. Kind of like what I'm doing, or try to do in the podcast and spend some time bluebell is going to be there as well. And

she's going to be doing drawings and sketching all day with other other artists and selling artwork to donate money and a whole bunch of other things last year, they raised $15,000 in one night, and to help children and stuff like that. And like I said, I would never normally do this ever.

But I understand how important it is have positive people and things in the world for kids, especially sick ones. And I'm a firm believer in the fact that if you can take time out of your day,

whether it's to help that day, or visit that day, or write a check or donate a toy to children in need, especially sick ones. The power of being positive and being happy is so important

when you're sick. It really is I know tons of people that have been very sick and literally have been cured because of either nice gestures or you've been happy. And that literally helps you get through either the sickness, the cancer, whatever it may be, and they fought and because of that positivity they got through

December 1 grasshoppers. I should probably tell you guys where it is. Let me look that up still. But now I kind of just went on a little tangent.

I do genuinely believe in it. I'm actually going to go down I'm going to stop by for a little while as well. So if you have never met me, it's maybe a time that you can meet me. If you've met me and you just want to help out stop by I'll be there. I'd be more than happy to meet you.

I don't know if this is the right place. But it's just if I'm reading this correctly. And I think I am

it is in Wilson Park hillside Avenue. And one of the just get myself into just kidding. I will be there but go support. It's cool. I don't know the hours I will actually put a link in the podcast description to go check it out. Also, I normally don't do that. But I really think that stuff like this can really change the world. And because of that I will go and I will support and I think it's for a really good cause.


back to the normal stuff. My guest tonight or my friend Lula my friend, Stacey. She is a rock star which is great. French is a rock star. When it comes to art. She talks all about the transformation of her life and into art and overcoming fears. Which I absolutely love. I love hearing stories like that

and we just kind of we hang out as always and talk about stuff and her friend Stacy is hysterical. We have great time on the show. I don't want to spoil I don't really want to spoil anything but I think you guys are gonna love it. I will give you a quick heads up the first section of the show. I think it's like about 45 minutes or so. I'm an idiot. I messed up the audio. It was computer audio and not microphone audio. So the audio is not the absolute perfect best audio possible. But it's pretty good. And then after about an hour, it kicks right in. And it's the normal super high quality stuff I try to provide to you guys. So that's the podcast. I hope you guys really enjoy it. I really hope you guys take time to stop down December 1. At grasshopper comics. I think I really do genuinely believe that it's going to have not only an impact on kids, but you have an opportunity to meet me. You get to meet Lula who's who's a guest on my show. And I want to spread that kind of stuff. I just genuinely believe in doing the right thing. And I think in and I know this is doing the right thing. So if you have time, that'd be cool. I'd love to see there

guys. I really hope you enjoy the show. And I'm sorry I got a little emotional. That's why it's a little longer than normal. Enjoy


But Stacy. You're just sharing the How I Met Your mother's version of your life. Yes. How I met my

almost said it.

You said it already served up during your run into the bus. You hear that? Boyfriend? Men guys. Hi. Dad says name and is

that just blessed? I thought I had a good name part.

Oh my god.

What's his last name?

what nationality is that? He damn Indian

jars are parts part.


God. That's cool, man. Alright, so you got caught.

caught the bouquet? Yeah. What's your

weekend and then his friends pretty much staged it so that he would catch the garter and then all made a big deal. He would catch it.

And he has made a big deal about how we're the next couple to get married. And they were playing on Snapchat, Stacy. You know?

s&p like s&p 500. Oh, yeah.

Why not? Yeah,

the other story.


I started working at Sweetwater in 2013, and I became friends with a couple that were from New Jersey. So that whole like loud Italian that always like new to me, because I'm from Fort Wayne, Indiana. So it's like, you know, we have just like, white people.

That's it.

So that is is beautiful, by the way. super cold. But it is

super cool. But yeah, yeah, it's nice there. So him sitting right behind me while I'm like trying to answer the phone was terrible. And I just turned around time. And as I can you just like talk normal. Like, because the people on my phone can hear you talking to me.

Yeah. And he was just like,

yeah, so from that day forward, like, you just love to pick on me. And, and I gave it right back to him. And I think he may be kind of appreciated that that I didn't just like, Okay, my mouse you like, you know,

go into it.

So we became really good friends and kind of, you know, he didn't have any family out there. So my family and we kind of became his family out there. And so it's like, we were literally always together. And then like, two years later, he had this crazy Memorial Day party divided all of his friends that he grew up with in Jersey to come out and stay with him and park was there and

we hit it off at the party. And like, spent the whole weekend together, kind of just hanging out and drinking and whatever. And we got each other's numbers. And he was texting me, but

this is in Jersey know, Indiana

State for the weekend. And so then after he, you know, he went back to Jersey, while I guess he lived in New York at the time, Long Island, but he's originally from New Jersey. So he, you know, comes back here, and we're like, still talking. And I didn't really think anything of it. Because it was like, you know, he's coming back here. And I'm saying in Indiana, obviously, of course. So he was very persistent. He came back two weeks later, hang out and see me and he asked me, you know, I was wanting to date and I was like, Oh,

boy, thousand miles. I know nothing, like short term distance relationship.

Yeah, I had kind of already done that with a guy once. And it didn't work out. Well, obviously, it was just like, I had just gotten out of a super serious relationship. And I wasn't really looking to be in a relationship with anyone. And he was okay with me saying no, he continued to text me and talk to me came back two more weeks later to see me again. And I was just like, Okay, this guy's pretty serious about like, wanting to date me. So I was like, Okay, I was like, we can try it. If it doesn't work out. Like, I'm going to step away. Like, if I'm not comfortable. He was like, okay, that's fine. And so we tried to see each other once a month. So I would either come out here or he would come to Indiana.

Wow. Yeah. Girl, so much time from work. And I would just take I would just

like leave early on Friday. And because it really worked out because my friends I had made us we want to work from Jersey. They were coming back for a different family events or something. And dog just hitch a ride with him. And I would chip in for gas.

Wait, you drive across the country for this guy? Yeah. Well, he did the same for me. Of course, if you are listening, you,

sir. deserve a medal of honor.

As I drove here, he would drive out to Indiana, and

that is why wild Yeah, after a year and a half draws my friends that are going nonchalantly across the country. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah. So then he would come in Jersey, and then we'd hang out on Long Island for the weekend. And then I'll be right back with them on Monday, or Sunday, or whatever it was. And then after how many hours

long drive was that?

It depends how many times you stop. If you stop one time to get gas in our bathroom. You can make it in about 10 hours if you stop a couple of times, because your friends have a baby. And now I gotta like change the diaper. And all that

you didn't realize is only 72 hours on a weekend, right? Yeah. So including having Friday off, right? Yeah, that is dedication. Yeah,

so we did that for like, a year and a half. And we decided to close the gap. And I got here

I am so Mind blown, like,

and then she got a position at a law firm for


and 40 minutes was far too far from a



that's the worst part about owning your own business. I'm realizing everyone's like, Oh, yeah, my offices in Jericho. My great. Um, I'll be

I guess we're never going to new business because I basically refused to go past the Nassau Suffolk County border.

It's awful. And then people are like, Oh, yeah, I work in New York City. Am I cool? Well, where do you live? Because I'll just catch you on your way home. Because there's no chance I'm going to New York City. Like,

unless we're spending the whole day together. I don't know. Like, I get out of the train at a Penn Station. And you walk up to the like, the, the fresh air will do air quotes. And I immediately like

I literally just got to New York City. It's eight in the morning. Like I just showered and add two hours ago and I'm already dirty.

The city is so cool to me. Cuz I'm, you know, I'm here. I'm really two years like, yes. Interesting. That place that's also cool city.

Awesome. And it's so you can eat dinner off the sidewalks. It is freakishly clean. Yeah, and there

needs to be that way. homelessness in a very long time. In two weeks ago. I went and same thing when I come out of the train. Penn Station all sudden, I see crowds of people and you know, caution tape everywhere. And I'm like, oh, boy, here we go. Cops everywhere. You know, I'm just so like, you know, I'm not used to being the city for a long time to come on to that. But the lucky thing was spider man homecoming was being filmed. So I didn't get to see

pictures of it.


surrounded by a complex in my life lately is aligning.

Yeah. So I want to hear about this whole story about I will further when we started out with a brush smart. And then it was like, oh, by the way, I used to never talked to anybody. And I'm like, Oh, well, that's not normal. Ok. And now that's normal. I was just like, now I'm on a podcast, and then a on a podcast. Literally, that's just life, right?

Oh, it's about facing challenges, facing fears. And

every more everything. If you live in your comfort zone, you will never grow as a

human. I'm never gonna meet amazing people

that goes with your waistline to for all the fluffy people out there, like may feel inside of comfort zone to say, you're never going to learn about tacos and burritos. All right. That's it.

Just kidding. systems. So I want to hear your story. Because now we heard the longest distance relationship that's ever occurred. I'm just now my goal. My sole goal in life to die happy is to find somebody that's like, Oh, yeah, community, New York. We just drove across every every week with dental go for a month, a week of work once a month. And I'm like, well, that's even more dedication that I could even imagine.

Now, where should I start at right now, or

one idea, overcoming fears to talking to people to may not know that you had a hidden talent of art until like, two weeks ago or so

overcoming fears. And

you're just me, by the way, so just remember why you're in the hot seat. All right,

you're the one that promoted you know, that you would like to

interview guests. You know, if you're looking

if you're looking for someone to be interviewed, I'm looking to be interviewed. So I can get over this fear. And I would like to promote the event that I was just at. And I kind of like, that's okay, I had too much going on getting getting this art ready. And execution, we

welcome on demand pieces. So anyway,

I didn't bring some artwork and most amazing piece in short, in a short period of time, just to go into that really quick. So we could I was the event by the was amazing. It was believable. You know,

it's like one I the first event I ever did. I've never been to Comic Con apps. Number one, those people I always wanted to, but that goes along with the fear of speaking also the fear crowds that kind of, yeah.

Whoa, what was that from, by the way, speaking both, I don't like lunch. cranz, just as a like, I could captivate everybody in a room. But like, if there is like an adult, large thing going on, or an event going on. As soon as I have people touching me at all the whole time. Not that I must have a fear of people touching me. I'm just like, finds us enjoyable. I like my mainly you go to drinking events. That's usually what I refer to. But concerts and stuff like to where you're like, that's already and I'm like this. Isn't this just one from fun to not fun? Like, what? why did why is everybody so tightly packed


I don't have a fear. I just don't like it. Like, my, my happiness level goes from like, 100 to like, 10. And I'm like, I need to get out of the tent or facility or anything like that a thriving open spaces.

Yeah, definitely.

If you're speaking, I don't know, maybe just upbringing, stuff like that. But there we're having a chance to be wanting to speak. I was always an artist, wrong, quiet, introverted. I see. express myself in my art, basically communicating with my voice.

So you've always been doing art.

Yeah. Ever since I was able to hold a pencil, I was able to draw and mimic my first strong ever I'll never forget is basically the cover of one of the VHS, you know, Disney covers of like Pinocchio or Safari Dumbo, like Jordan today sounds like 8586. And for some reason, I had the uncanny ability to make the cover at five years old with no training or anything like that.

So ever since then just doodling I was always the kid in the class that was able to draw the best kind of kid and then

I've wanted to pursue it. I didn't have a chance to for reasons of no financial and also I had to, unfortunately

take care of my mom. She was going through breast cancer at the time and stay home with her and, and like 911 happened, like so much going on around that time. Yeah. And I'm in Brooklyn at the time. So you grew up? Yeah.

So we're doing a fear of crowds. But you live in Brooklyn? Yeah,

absolutely. Well,

good parts of Brooklyn showed up the bass. But, you know,

I kind of and then I met my husband and I came on a cruise. And yeah,

I want to hear this story. We already went through the long distance one now you got to fire off this one Samba new tracks right now.

So I met him

around 24. Yes, Turkey. And

thank you, and yoga and


yo, yo,

he healthy. Um, so yeah, we met when we're both 24 years old on a cruise his family there out my family's there. And we weren't even supposed to be there. He had a girlfriend at the time that he broke up with. I had a boyfriend at the time.

We'll get into that later. It does have something to do with the whole complex stuff. And what comic book stuff? It does have the reason why I was drawing back then, and stuff like that.

So yeah. So then I met him, and we he asked me to marry him the first day. Wait, what? Yeah, yeah. The first day, he asked me to marry him.

He the first day, you know, yep. And down on one knee, and everything

at my wedding. No more of like, will you marry me? Like, you know, at the cruise at the bar. I won't go through the whole thing I like to store and everything like that. But the roulette table we met at a table,

I put money on 17. He tells the story better. That's why I never usually at this point, he comes in and tells the story.


this is a this whole story.

I gotta

go. See you soon. We're going to do anything interesting. Yeah,

you're supposed to say that. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Okay. Good. I mean, come on. Come on the podcast. I'll have them on, I

think even enjoy it. Yeah, absolutely. He's got some great stories. So. So yeah, I'm actually table with my sister. And I put, I don't know, $5 on 17. And it hits and my husband very, very attractive, handsome at night. You know, that, you know,

as a 24 year old girl. I was like, Okay, this is a nice looking guy. seems nice. Not creepy looking. I was I was, I'll be honest, I was in love with him. So

I put the money on there, and 17 hits. And then I take the money away, and it comes out again. So the first words out of his mouth was like, Who does that? You know? Why would you take the money away after you when you supposed to keep the money? You take your winnings, and keep your money? I'm like, Are you kidding me? And then I already knew that he was from Brooklyn from his voice. I'm like, Where are you from? You sound like you're from. I'm from Brooklyn. New. You, like still, like adamant about the fact that I took my money away. So basically, from day one, we've been like, you know, back before

yelling at each other and stuff like that. But yes, ever since then. We, we've been inseparable. So that was about the definition low at first sight. 14 years. So my sister was actually there. And that whole night, you know, we, you know, I hung out with him. And we just spoke and talked all night. And we just really obviously, connect. And then when I went back to my room, and my sister was like, Who's that way? You know, I really I didn't get his name.

So were you on the cruise with your boyfriend? Please? The on the cruise.

My sister and her two kids. My boyfriend was at the time was supposed to go, but he couldn't. And yeah, I messed up. Yes. So, you know,

we were

together for two years. And it was kind of like, on its way out anyway, obviously,

ever let tables and just picking up dudes to marry. It's like, Man, I'm kind of saying this yet. Here. And watch me. So now this display Does that ring on the end. Who wants it

now? But

I'm rolling back to 2004 for the year to be alive. Oh, man. It was me.

So I will say what?


I was even born yet. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. There is. We're the you. There are people that are like,

I'm not gonna say when I was

funny know, it's weird kids. Now, learning about 911 is a historic event.

Mind blown. Yeah.

So going back to the room. My sister asked me, you know what happened? You're talking to that boy for so long.

I was name and I told her. He asked me to marry them, you know, and she's like, so at my wedding. She was my maid of honor. And she said basically, that we weren't sure if he was the one or he was, you know, crazy, crazy, obviously.

And he's absolutely crazy.

Yeah, that was that's how we met. And we've been together ever since. So, coming from Brooklyn, you know, both of us. And now we live in Long Island, and he's a successful business owner. I'm successful at my career trainee. You know,

you can give a shameless plug show


part of my life. I've been with them for 10 years.

So they play a huge part in your life. He's part


cancer and if you listen to your own next,


definitely developed my skills, you know, in marketing because of

his vision and his direction. So

I don't know so much of a visionary that dude is until like, I like started to, like, really creep and I'm like, god damn concerning

shit. I'm just I sit behind a computer all day. And all of a sudden now, like, I'm a volunteer firefighter, Eagle Scout, like the whole night. I try to do like, as much as I can. And then I looked at cancer and like, not playing down hard enough. We gather. You know, I gotta, I gotta get dirty. Back in the sandbox here. Ship busy. 24. Seven.

I can only imagine I feel like the Navigon app.


Yeah. There you go. So many ways. It can either be like this is gonna be awesome or I'm going to hate my life because nothing's gonna work out well like hey can by the way I just wanna let you know we read we replicated this SpaceX rocket and we're going to go to Mars yeah not good enough we should have done a Jupiter to

I'm like oh

ok we have a bunch of for make a damn budget for something like that only had a handful of conversations with them but

you know

that he does big time

and nonprofit


down in the trenches with them yeah yeah very good time for them

and he created the imagine or something that we get to celebrate once a year and showcase what just happened in it may every May we do the applications

also say I saw something about just pastor

number 28 so if you know of any nonprofits or if you'd like to nominate a leader that's a nonprofit definitely go to our website Joe sugg fan but it's it's good for now if they get to apply and it made me to finalize around they're getting a free video and $5,000 in plus all the promoting of it and

shorts event Have you ever had somebody went twice in a row

trying to think two years in a row maybe but not in the same like was we have five categories of innovation rising star social impact your

leadership and now the arts and culture Lord so we've had finalists that were in two categories because they applied for two different programs you know there's some amazing organizations on Long Island so yeah if you go to ww I'd imagine awards or just google at Long Island imagine orange you'll learn so much about it definitely contact me if you have questions

no it's cool it's definitely cool far so no we just plug him sorry yeah associates on be here now is gonna come on now that he's been he's under the bus now

our two guests coming up. Yeah, so many parts.

He was like, oh yeah. I just want him on because of his name. His name I can always tell them that you love it. There is not many people that I know that have like, pardon my French but bad ass names.

Like he struck gold

Wait, I love my name. Like people go Harrison. Like oh, it's pretty powerful name. And then again, you know, like I appreciate that. You know, and then you get like Mike or Bob like Okay, cool.

You're getting people to parse and they're like

oh dude, like

and why you couldn't do anything with that name? Like it doesn't matter like if you could you could be semi okay and something but with that name. Yeah, it's like yeah, I barely got through med school I'm like a brain surgeon. My name is parts you like

like I don't know what accomplishments or goals or things like that you've done but I need you to do my surgery now I feel like 12 people now I need you to do my name my part that's worth dying for like oh anything that didn't crush it

crush it that is like that is probably one of the coolest things ever and

I love it I'm so I'm so into it.

Yeah, yeah, just a little bit I never heard it before but that's not all. That's also not common way here. Name that I've never heard before.

No, sorry. It's just doesn't carry the weight is not right on your bread. I liked lu lu is like, happy name. Like you hear somebody. Oh, hey, my name is Lula. I'm like wow. You I feel like your entire life is just sunflowers and cheer and rainbows

party. Like this dude could literally do anything and conquer the world.

What do I do will parse definitely parse meaning first name meeting? I'll find out okay. Yeah, find out

there's so many

different languages in India so

I want to talk about comics and cartoons and

yeah what's your favorite

character so I don't watch I don't read comics of my watch it on the day

when it's think we're we both saw it. This is my art. So I feel like I should just

immediately disclose there's going to be massive spoiler alerts

right now. So if you're listening and you haven't seen venom and you plan on seeing venom stop the podcast now and skip forward like 10 minutes Yes, yeah,

I know that we're going to go down a dark path right now


first of all Holy shit. I thought it was a great movie. I thought I thought the Tom Hardy could have been a little bit better of an actor. There were also some parts in the movie that didn't

as far as like a video production knows we're poor like when she's talking to him and she just got fired and she drops her stuff something falls out of the box but then when she's leaving, there's nothing she doesn't pick anything up and there's nothing there and I was like I really know who saw that one yes? Right. Like just simple

things like that are paid so much money

exactly like job I don't even watch movies like so I see a movie I'm like this is amazing. Like everyone my friends could say it sucks it's the worst movie ever ever friend He's a movie snob like he could recall anything happens in movie that movie I was just like put like

she didn't pick up what you dropped you may have seen

a day and that's the other thing too So Tom already got interviewed after the showing of the movie and like oh you know what was your favorite part of the movie he goes to 3030 to 40 minutes that they took out and I was like wow that's a lot of time to take out one and to the fact that your favorite part of the movie is taken out super said the movie also did feel very rushed I feel like it could have easily been longer probably because they cut it out and also yeah the battle scenes show or

yeah they could have been they were so like almost almost a you know I love that cell I'm sorry I'm The End

The End The party is fighting quiet Riot like it was so short and I was like this this creature massive spoiler comes from literally the other side of the country makes it to you and the biggest fight between the two but antagonist and protagonist right i think it's

like four minutes long yeah

absolutely well you did do some cool stuff where you could like see Tom Hardy and that yes I

was really

yeah yeah you had all this time like you don't even see him throughout the entire movie then rather than the appears to fight them and I'm like

that's it that's all you guys got like yeah you didn't even know who was until


like I don't understand that either because you know like hardcore Marvel fans will be in the movie theater as long as the movie is yes like no one's gonna be like oh that movie with two hours 30 minutes no

no no I'm gonna hair like feelings to that I didn't like was venom states his weaknesses which I'm like

why would you say your weakness You shouldn't have people find that out is like oh you know sound frequencies from X the X and then fire my weaknesses and

make sense out of the riot seen you know yes

that's what you do to declare

like a real story the host Ryan is not in the box

he isn't part of it isn't it?

I mean I heard that it was just made up for not I don't know I could be wrong i'm sure you probably get some

oh I did a ton of research on the movie beforehand um that was like there was five of them that came down and vented and they could be

what is it that the word when you can self reproduce

whatever it is but you know there's five I think brothers or something like that and venomous one of them I like to kind of human they put in you know you know why my own kind of loser in the group like I was like okay that's kind of funny you know yeah yeah he's a total loser yeah

that I didn't like I was just like there was just so many things that it was like that was so cool and then there are so many other things I don't like it and I definitely a firmly firmly firmly believe it should have been rated R like the kind of made that movie much better and it's all for the

DVD their make they're gonna have the

R rated DVD Did you hear that? Or you're just speculating

I'm speculating. Oh I hope to god that cool Deadpool you know it made the PG 13 version

I don't know who are well

they're going to release it

oh oh wow the opposite yeah oh I didn't know that

the sale

I really hope so because I really be curious to see how I would absolutely

at heart he was excited

about yes

I think everybody yeah I was Superman he heads instead of you know,

I don't care about the the cutting of the heads but like just him in his like, natural form basically, of like, you know, I need to feed instead of like, Oh, what is there all of this is dead food, you know, whatever it is, you know, and I think the part in the restaurant could have been done better and when is eating the officers and stuff like that I was just like, really that's it like I would have changed in the venom to eat not stay this Tom Hardy trying to eat like that. Like there's little things like that that I'm like, and then you see like you see them swim and venomous swims. I'm million miles an hour. And then he and then jumps out. And it's not venom, but like, that's the only time you see him swim. Like, I just feel like there's so much more than could have done and they didn't. And the other thing I don't like either is the ending when a Woody Harrelson says like oh, there's going to be carnage. I'm like,

Okay, I get it. Because there's another one of you called carnage. But like,

That's him. You know

who is going to be Carnage? Yeah, yes. And apparently like venom gives birth to Carnage or something like that. Or some kind of thing like that. But what I didn't like is there's nothing to talk about how Woody Harrelson out there which is fine but you're going to give them two minutes at the end is a cliffhanger and just say there's going to be Carnage

well yeah

I was just like you could have played it off like it instead of making this in two minutes five minutes like jumping in the future you know how does Woody Harrelson get there and then like kind of give like a better teaser be I'm just like if I didn't know about like all of them oh no one would understand nobody would understand that so from an outside person just saying like oh you know the movie looks cool

kinda like

that two minutes at the end of every Marvel movie though is for like real like diehard fans that you know

I agree that they could have just done it so much better you know like either him going on a killing streak like you know foreshadow or foreshadowing I don't know jumping back to the past where like you know if something happened and now he's there and then you know and he brought comes up to him and then he says that like something like a scene and then you know, let's say really bad scene happening you know, claw marks and cars, things like that or whatever it may be and then like it goes like the camera pans into like a while a building and then that building turns into the jail and then there is like carving is a car incorrigible, I don't know like Okay, I get it now but like I feel like the way they did it was just so poor you are in a sentence SpiderMan

was no I'll talk to a lot of artists and stuff like that said that SpiderMan was

expired I was gonna be

two feet up like he was able to stand on this tooth even without vitamin D we're always yeah together

so I heard this is what I've heard so far because I spent a lot of time on the internet

they had to make this movie pG 13 because men is going to have to fight SpiderMan some point now

which I still think animated are and then dialed it back for that

movie. Exactly.

Yes. Which I think would have been probably the way to go so I think that was done bed and I think the next movie is the next movie succeeds I think they'll make maybe one more event a movie or they'll split it off to go into two directions. So they'll then they'll be Spider Man and venom and then just be venom now and then they'll kind of go back and forth that's the only thing I could think of but that's my thoughts on the movie

I should the whole plot line was done in a fast really fast and microwave

who's way it's girlfriend in the movie so annoying

to like guys I would never know that

you can definitely tell it was fake I don't like that. It's like low budget these are all signs of low budget

you know all CGI is the most expensive thing that world these


I be well so then that brings back to the statement of did they skimp or was what they cut out the best parts of the movie because you wouldn't even care about that wig. If the rest of movie was killer

I wouldn't notice you know okay you show you gave it a pass like that little box thing okay give it a pass you know honestly who gives a shit about the hair like screw air you know just bought up in this now the other thing okay I'm in yeah that was my big to do with it. And I was just like

at the end I was happy I saw it played pretty well into the comics from what I've read and stuff like that and I did a ton of research before the movie and then but I just felt like I could have been done so much better especially for the first real

enemy yeah like Darkside movie like almost ever. And that's what you come up with Anthony, you know,

it was the first column forever. But, you know,

I come from a generation where a little closer I come from the generation that comes from, you know, we're comic books started to really change and evolve, you know, back in 9192. And that's when, you know, venom came out. And Tom McFarland started, you know, drawing Spider Man and stuff like that. And then

spawn came out, like everything started to be different than the classic style of comic books that used to see where he was just very, very tight, you know,

not what you see today. You're very modernized, so that was a big deal to me, because the one that really attracted my the doors were shiny. Yeah, pretty cool.

Yes. I was really looking forward to this. And I definitely enjoyed I came home I was really happy with it. You know,

you go back to you start to think, like, maybe they could have done a little better here. Better their

initial reaction. The end I was like, Okay, good movie. Yes. Yeah, yes. Oh, yeah. I know what I watched it again. Yes. That's probably one of the movies that are watching the other


But I'm like, this could have been sold. Like we could have, you know, it's rated probably a solid, so seven, you know, seven out of town

with just a little bit more, and whoever. And who knows what, that 30 to 40 minutes that's cut out is be could easily have been a 10 out of 10 easily, you know, at least a nine out of 10. And I think the sad part is like the Green Lantern. They only made one of them. Because Green Lantern sucked. You know where I'd be. I'd be so distraught if they

only made two Venom's. Yeah. You know? I feel like it could easily be its own series.

What do you think of the actual venom like his his face his design.

So as bad as I loved it,

I think he like you said it'll keep going. And that's the main important thing. How they presented him. I was worried about that. I was worried about how he was going to be perceived and how he was going to move. And the whole banter between him and you know

about his name,

banter between his I loved it was great. I felt like you were listening to their conversation right there. Sure. And when, you know, certain things happen to me, you're like, Oh, my God, you know, or something happened to venom. I thought that was good. connected to the audience.

Yes, the comp a fan would agree.


yeah. And the little guy and it was kind of silly to some parts were like, you know, he's in his room. And, and, you know, put it, he puts his hands up, it's like, no hands, you can also go that's kind of comical, like, Okay, I get it, and you killed everybody, which is fine. And what I want to end like, this is the heart of this thing that I would love to see him. You know, I don't necessarily care if it's all the heads, but I would love to see like a pile of bodies like, okay, you know, if the heads are a little too gruesome, fine, right? But show like the pile bodies, you know, the show their hands, but show the pile bodies stacked up in the corner of the room, and maybe some blood marks like that little fraction would have just been like, Oh, my God. Yeah, I know, it would have just given that like, oh, the students self

instead of like, the, you know, he's leaves, right. You know, my really, really, that's, that's what you do.

I'm gonna feel it. I so I used to watch like, Spider Man, and excellent and know when I got home from school, but I was never into the actual comic book. So like, I don't know, a lot of these like backstory is like what Lula does. And I don't, I like the characters. I don't always have, like, the same connection to them that she does. So like, in some ways, I'm kind of glad that I don't have that. Because, like, the movies are enjoyable to me. I really, I really liked them. And I don't like

I have another friend Christy, that's, like, super into the comic books, everything. And she has, she has, like, a lot of the same feelings, like a little, it doesn't the same connection to the characters and she critiques the movies, like, sure, you


so I am, I'm, like, always happy with all of them. Because, like, it's kind of, like, new to me. Sure. Yeah,

I like hearing it from Lula's perspective, to about how you know, iconic these people are, these characters are to her and that kind of thing and seeing it come out, you know, I actually,

I actually had a big fear that venom was going to be too similar to what they did with

the old one. The old venom with the original didn't see it. I'm right.

Second name.

Tobey Maguire. Yes. Yeah, like venom in

that I heard of his shady,

shady, dark, which I thought was cool. I was all in that. The problem that I saw with that as CGI wasn't area, you know, really wasn't where you know what it is today. So, like, for me, I saw that, and I was like, you're building a job, man and of sand, right? But venom can't be a little more badass.

Thank you. Like, that was my disconnect.

And then, like, this one came out. And I was like, Oh, hello, we woke up. Thanks to modern technology. Venom's going to look like a total killer now thank you like what he was originally supposed to be yeah you know and I think he definitely could have been a little more ruthless to like he was a little too nice which I'm like and then somebody don't try and take over the world they were going to kill the whole human race anyway in your spare and


that was my

maybe there that's like the

Eddie Brock part of I mean I guess venom is around how many parts but like that's like the release like the or like what they learn from each other kind of

thing yeah do you get sick and he says like you know I want to defend your planet why because of you you know okay great but beforehand like in the initial fight scene like when he's putting his hands up like dude kill them all like what like like you're an alien that just took over like in this dude has obviously no control over you act like it yeah you know be a little business you know Deadpool who's getting shot left and right yeah corn and she can't even show him killing people why sad sad that's my thoughts on

I feel deeply

like well I wasn't expecting it

says no we're

No No

Did I miss anything that you know we'll see what happens I'm kind of curious know the next one's already coming up.

So let's talk about phase man this present day in the room in the fields moment right now you brought a little I did pro

okay bro.

Yeah, the game changer for me last year. Such a

good guy. Oh my god. It's good thing and married you right on spot

we passed by that chapel. And the, in the in the cruise. You know, the cruise

cruise line was a by the way Carnival you shoot out?

miracle. Oh my god. I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. I like aren't lookers is personally. Except they limit on how many drinks you can have today. Oh, yeah.

Tender today on your card. Even if even if you have the unlimited package because who in their right mind is supposed to drink 17 drinks in a day? I mean, in a week. Well, this guy does. Thankfully. Same thing.

My liver can handle it. And I've already put that to the test.

But have you gone back on the miracle can be like taking a little trip down memory lane. know

we. We did get married on a cruise to the city. It was leaving queen. Wait, what? I wanted those new our cruises where it circles the city and you get to go really close to the Statue of Liberty. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's really nice. doesn't really tell them when they got married on.


no roulette table. Yeah. Cuz I was

shut down. 517. Why did you put $5 down? I know,

plan a little better. Come on.

My God. I think it was amazing. That August 17. Yeah.

Well, we did. It was a cruise on August 17. The original cruise that you guys got on? No, no. Oh, I don't know. August played a part in it. Other than 7517 would have been like on the money noted.

Nice size.

The next guy.

Just kidding. Just kidding. Actually. I friends that dated because I told them that the date I am I forget what it was, I think was like 11, 1213

or something like that. And I was like, I don't wanna say who it was. But I'm like, Hey, this is a really good date for like an anniversary and stuff like that. He's like, okay, and he asked his girlfriend to be his girlfriend on that day. didn't work out. But whatever. It was so cool. God. Okay. Relax.

Cool. date. Yeah. Alright, so let's

talk about comics. sent me the iPad last. Okay. I stopped drawing for a long period of time. Why? Yeah. Um, well, I just, I got the whole comic books scene and stuff like that. And I was really into it.

What, what, what happened? Well busy or

what? The time the my ex boyfriend you know, dating. He was really into it. And he knew somebody very high up in Marvel. So we used to get, you know, premiere tickets to spider man. Yeah, the Punisher when it came out theater, and to go and actually meet the actors and stuff like that. And so I was starting to do some. Well,

just kidding, just kidding.

I'm definitely enjoyed that part.

And then I just stopped after that, for a long period of time, I was lucky enough, I was fortunate enough to actually still keep the connection with Marvel and

and was able to show my portfolio to Joe Quesada, who is the creative

at the time he was the chief editor of Marvel. Yeah, and he gave me some tips and stuff like that. And, you know,

I had lunch with him, and it was great.

It was definitely a great experience. So, fast forward, five years later, I, you know,

I kind of just penciled here and there and through some stuff, but I'm always wanted to get into the digital world, I always wanted to color and back then you'd have to have like these huge tablets, you know, that were like, two grand and above the software behind it, the CPU behind it, and it just, it's not

to get into drawing digitally, yes,

yeah. Okay. You know, so Apple made this amazing iPad Pro last year with the pencil that has an amazing ability of, you know, sensitivity to the touch and feel of an actual pencil. Sure. So from practicing on it on my own, and taking online tutorials following artists that were just amazing to me, there's so much out there now shown to, you know, that you could learn on your own, I was able to mimic their techniques and create my own stuff. And then also use it for, you know, maybe taking artwork that a professional artist has created so that I could learn the shading and learn how to use, you know, whatever lines they used, and recreate their cover, let's say,

Wow, that's pretty reverse engineer.

So it from like, it's pretty hard to go from pencil to digital. I can only imagine I can talk to art. I can talk artists now that are like real comp of artists that they're just starting to get into the iPad Pro and using it because it's portable to see iPad

Pro, like the leader in the

I think it is, I think, I think most artists do. I've seen them all the time that you don't see them with the other.

The other one is the Microsoft Surface,

right? Yeah, the Surface Hub, though.


it's this insanely expensive, but like it has little turn thing. I don't know if you've seen it. So you come from the tech background, but it's just massive thing. And you could literally lay down as a little something like this. And he basically stick to the screen and the screen knows. And you can literally just turn it and pick your colors off of a color wheel. It's very impressive. Yeah, yes, probably way overkill for 99.999% of people, but


to integrate.

After practicing for at least nine months, I went from, like,

pure garbage to actually something that looks like there's a long time to learn. Yeah,

long time years, you know, I don't have any proper technical training. So these are concepts that are picked up by students that are training, you know, short these colleges and stuff like that easily. And I don't have that. So I had to teach myself on my own and figure it out, which was a long road now. Now I'm creating art and also learning

and then all of a sudden, I found out about a convention called in beyond con and that beyond. Yeah, that's for independent artists. So it's no pressure. It's a small convention, it's i n g n. And it's basically for our independent artists, only, no big guys are there, no professionals like you know, so there's no intimidation. And I spoke to the person that handles all of it. The Creator Eric Hutchinson, and I told him my story, how I always wanted to get back into it. And now I have an iPad Pro. I have some stuff, you know, and he helped me along the way, give me a table

and cosplay.

Yeah, they have. cosplayers in there. And it's pretty cool. Um, and I've got to meet some amazing people

I met fans that contact me to till today. And this was or, you know, this was about two and a half months ago. And, you know, they they're contacting me for like, custom work

commissions and stuff like that. And I was fortunate enough to meet somebody that was creating another convention called the Suffolk comp comic art Expo, which happened last Saturday, his name is Phil and I met him there. We were talking back and forth a little bit because I did find out about the show because now I'm interested in conventions. People are telling me about it. So he came to the show. He came to me and Conlon is two beautiful daughters. And we met he met my husband, you know,

I was talking to him about

it, too.

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So, yeah, he sees me draw all this stuff. And he wants to make sure it's just like,

they're like, inseparable. I told you

there about, like, 10 years older than part than I. So we have, like, a great example in Andrew in the low like, what couples do for each other? And what manages we also have great examples for you both of our parents, but

policy here that

yeah, I mean them longer than I don't know. So, you know, yeah, his love for them, you know, a little further back in mind, but it's like our

Yeah, yeah. So,

yes, a Phil asked me if I was interested in being at his show. And that was pretty intense. Because if you look at his show,

there are some Wait, hold on one second artists there. So I was just


So Phil asked me to be on his show. And now is pretty intimidating because there were artists already lined up his alley that were professionals and, you know, people that worked for that did come, you know, work for Marvel and DC and had their own comic books.

So if you take a look at his artist alley, it's pretty amazing. It's

an artist alley,

that's the lineup of the artists that are going to be at the show. So they'll be vendors. So vendors can be in comic book stores, or those toy collectible stores, anything in that whole like comic book genre, and then they'll have artists there. So artists are there to sell their prints or actual originals or their comic books that they are doing or that they're involved with also having commissions so that they'll draw right there live sketches sometimes, or if you tell them you know, I really want something and you tell them beforehand, you connect with them and then they'll have it there for you so that you could pick it out that's really yeah, take a picture with them or stuff like that. So they'll have like something done that takes you know takes a pretty you know decent time to do instead of like a quick sketch

so yeah and and I was, you know, honor to be a part of the show on it was, you know, I had two months to prepare for it now. So, instead of just two weeks for Ambien con, which was crazy to start preparing for data every night drawing because I'm working a 40 hour job, it's rainy to and also teaching yoga. Um,

so now, why did you want to prepare for the expo? Like, what would you prepare? Well,

you want now you're you want to have stuff that's catching eyes, and, you know, new stuff, stuff that wasn't only at NBA con, because you understand what we're Long Island, you know, it's the same people, same community, they're going to go to one showing your next show, and stuff like that. So you want to try new stuff. And plus also finished the stuff that you've been working on that maybe you kind of put to the side now you have more time to clean it up, make it better promote it, you know, through Instagram and stuff like that. So, so I was able to get a you know, pretty nice table full of stuff ready for the show all stuff that you made? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I actually do put artwork on canvases that kind of sets me a little bit apart from the other artists. They're like, I can actually have don't do that. Yeah, you don't really see that you'll, you'll see more of the traditional prints and stuff like that. But I can put artwork because I can I have a great company that will take my artwork, I'm printed on canvas. And so they can be, you know, small eight by eight or 12 by 12, or even bigger. Yeah, so it looks pretty nice for a show when you have the same artwork that's and I'll print that's also on a canvas. And now you don't have to frame it to be a nice gift for some money. And it's really reasonably priced. It's not I'm not trying to kill anyone, because I'm a new artists. And sure a lot of its fan are too. I mean, that's just, you know, my interpretation of that character. And on either digitally or by pencils. So,

so yeah, I mean, along the way, I've met some amazing people, people that have been supporting me, you know, and pushing me on Instagram.


started off like, maybe 100 followers. Two months later, now, I'm up to four hundred and something. So that's all organic. Those are all probably people that actually connected with they're not bots or anything like that, or so. It's pretty cool.

So before this show that happened on Saturday,

put your Instagram handle and every piece of art, by the way, yeah, back. Yeah. You'd be surprised how many people like where you sign. I'm starting to see this a lot. where artists will do right below the signature at, you know, whatever their their name is on Instagram, or what their social media handles?

Well, it's loved by Lula and a lot of things I do sign and dedicate. And I'll put that information or give them my card along with the artwork. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I try to.

It was so much fun. It was really nice to me. A lot of the artists there everyone I feel like they see either see themselves and you kind of like, you know, I was there so that want to give you some tips or give you a marker maybe to help you out. I know, it's a marker, like, professional markers that, you know,

I do know about those. Yeah, yeah, my dad, my dad was big in art. And he has, like, his stuff is now very old. But he's like, these, like the most markers on the market. Yeah, I was like, what you and you feel it, you put that thing down on like, paper and stuff like that, Oh, this is not like one of those 70 markers that I used to have in kindergarten now. Now, they feel


Yeah. And it's a professional, you know, industry. So you want to use the best. And if you're surrounding yourself by artists that are have been doing it for more than 30 years, you know, pretty cool to see where they are and how they do things. And I'm good learner, like, I do learn quick and I'm very observant and stuff you know. So I take note. And yes, I appreciate it. Everyone that I got a chance to speak to that day. A lot of times, you know, you'll see artists that kind of are not, they're too busy. So you don't want to bother them, you know, and the thing is, I wish there was a way to, there'll be another event, so I'll be able to reconnect with them. They're planning to do the same event again, in April,

they were at the Expo, but they're too busy to talk to you

more. So like, they'll be with a client, or there's actually drawing so or I'll be it was, it was like a steady flow of people. I mean, it wasn't like Comic Con, you know, overwhelming, it was the perfect amount. And they call that the flow. It's like, it's a perfect amount of people were, it's not overwhelming to you. And you're not bored, you know, there's no law like, and it just flowed perfectly. And a lot of the artists like to be in a smaller venue like that, because that's when you get to interact with client fans and have a minute conversation instead of like, Next Next, you know, it's, it's not good for an artist they want to talk to you. They want to know what you like, it gives us insight on what you see in a character to or what makes you feel good. And that's a lot of things in my art. I tried to incorporate because I'm next to people that are killing it in the industry. Sure, you know, I just want to do this as a hobby, because I enjoy it. But some people actually see me doing it more on, you know, a higher level which I'm grateful for. But I also want to make sure that I'm doing what people enjoy seeing. So I try to use my art as like,

I try to invoke some sort of nostalgic component so that people see it and they're like, oh, man, I remember that movie that was like the best movie ever. So that's the best comic book I ever saw. You know,

just invokes that feeling of, you know, I was a kid when or whenever, and I did get that a lot at the show. There was one piece that I thought of two days before the event. I went to Genesis comic book and gaming in was Ronkonkoma.

Very friendly with Bill and his wife Jen. And they're they're so amazing to me. They I know Jen true screening

because she is one of our clients. She works for one of our clients as like a director there. And, you know, I showed her so my artwork one day because her husband owns a comic book store. And she was like, Lula, oh my god, you're amazing. I go, yeah, such a waste of talent, right? Don't do anything with just started to look to me. Like you're crazy. So I showed her I showed her my Wolverine. Because that's all I really had those, like my biggest piece back then. That was from my past. And she lost it. And I helped her with some marketing work, and to help her out and stuff like that. And she thanked me by creating this basket full of professional markers or professional pad, professional pencils. And inside the basket. Every little piece of that stuff that you fill a basket to make it lift up a little was comic book shredding. So they were actually like, it was so detailed. Like, I wanted to cry on that. Yeah, to thank me for helping her with her marketing. Holy Jesus. Yeah, she was sick. I lost No one's ever done anything like that on Instagram. I know I am. I'm going to it all started from that.

I wish I stood up the GoPros gonna set the GoPro today and video, and I was like Lula's already not comfortable being on the bike.

So when you come back, you're definitely gonna go pro because this is like gold. Like, God just hit it

was last year. That's when I get my iPad Pro. And that's when I started, like, really drawing now, because

what app do you use?

appropriate. I'm a big fan of procreate. It's a $10 app. And it is so powerful. So user friendly. They're constantly giving updates to it. It's definitely giving, you know,

Adobe run for their money. Really.

Yeah, yeah. Cuz you have a drawing this software as well.

Yeah. Adobe's like Photoshop, Illustrator, all those, you know, InDesign all those big programs and stuff like that, that are expensive. And you need a lot of CPU for, you know,

you could just do the same not the same, but really, really close. You know, to drew procreate. And you learn a lot of with the coloring tools and layering. I plan on doing my own tutorial on how I got from A to B, because I know artists that are just traditional pen marker ink that want to learn and I can probably make them jump, you know, from A to B very quickly, especially because

you just went through Yes,

yes, got it yet. And I do know how to teach somebody I have that patients and I enjoy it. So why it's a win win, you know,

so yeah, she she got me those markers and stuff like that, I started to connect with her comic book store. And they actually asked me to be at one of their like, events where I get to sit there and put my artwork and you know, to my drawings that was after in VM con.

So I was there and then after that, it was just constant drawing. And my husband has just been seeing my face in the iPad and drawing every night every night, you know, for Suffolk County comic book art next. Well, so. So here we are today. It's a few days after, you know,

I'm still getting you know, people that

What are you looking at? You guys are both looking at the

dark. I didn't know

they are looking at something that I need to see. I look at these.

Yeah, yeah. So this piece right here. The first one is what I created a couple of nights before

you made this on the iPad. Yeah,

that's all on the iPad. That's impressive. And that was created the concept was created at Genesis comic book store. Because I was talking to Bill and I said, I really need something that's going to be like, wow, you know, something powerful on my table. I have really nice stuff. I'm not saying I'm not trying to put myself down but you want like that one thing that's going to be like, Oh, my God, what do you think it at? Yeah, that's gonna jump just in case, you know. And I looked at the Killing Joke, which is a famous, iconic comic book from you know, back in the 80s. And it's the mean origin story for the Joker and I actually recently read it for the first time. Take a look. I recently read it for the first time. And I'm always a big fan of the Heath Ledger Joker. So I made a combination of the two. Yeah, or IP. I made a combination I infused a both of them together and which was very hard to do with no sleep. Yes, being sleep deprived and ready and getting ready for a show. This was


It was pretty intense to do that I'm initials, things like that.

That was good spot for it.

And that was my biggest seller. I sold out on that this. Yeah, because every generation, you'll have young kids. Oh my God, that's the Killing Joke. Or, you know, older adults looking at it. And they're like, Oh, that's the Killing Joke. Oh, and then they realize it's Heath Ledger. Like, I have to have it. I have every Joker you know, collection of our piece of art for my collection. So I got

a time frame and put all these in here.

Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, so that was, that was a lot of fun to create that piece you're looking at is the I don't know if you've ever, you know, spawned one has a character called the Redeemer. So that actually was that whole piece was about 25 hours all together. So you're looking at 25 hours, you could see the detail work in the feathers. The Purple Guy is the max, the purple guys, the max and I love the max. Because that came out 90s and Houston, the animated series on MTV.


So I wanted to start drawing him because now I have my iPad and I could color it. And you know, I could actually do it myself. I started to do that. I never realized that. like three weeks after I drew him. He came back. This is something 20 years later came back with a crossover with Batman. So now everyone's going crazy for Batman and the max, which is like a big deal, man. And yeah, it's like, yeah, you could definitely Google it. I met one of the variant cover artists at this show. His name is crease, c. r. e. s. So it's threes, I believe.

And he's, he's awesome. He helped me and we actually traded some art. You know, he gave me the, the venom and the carnage that's on my Instagram feed. So we traded some art and

art. Yeah, listening crease art. He's amazing for Wix. God damn it. Oh, no, really? It says weeks right across the top. Like, come on. man of great.

If you go to Suffolk County comic book Expo, you'll see all the artists there. And you can definitely check him out. He's got all the Oh, cool. The

Mac Batman

the new one. Yeah, the style is a little different. It's it's like very soft.

But that's the new comic book that's out. And it's funny. It's like, everything was just aligning sure you know, and to do to hashtag the max, you start to see that building up, which is a big deal and Instagram to see how many hashtags that's getting the following on that and stuff like that.

So I combined two very obscure characters. And I tried to make it very much like, almost like, you could see the point where they're almost touching. Yeah, you know, so what is that? The creation of Adam?

Yes, I was like, I knew what you were trying to get out. I'm like, I can't

the negative space. So I tried to incorporate that. And that was a lot of fun.

Did you see the new meme that they made, which I think is awful. It's the creation of Adam and both their hands like that. And somebody put a dog on a me it's like, they're both petting the dog. That's adorable. And I'm like,

for real. I've seen

the most iconic needle possibly ever made, with the exception of maybe a handful, and you guys put a dog on it. At this point. The Internet can do whatever he wants the internet.

So another cool thing about my artist that I could also put it on a tote bag. I don't know if Stacey has her tote bag. Yeah, I could put it on tote bags or mouse pads, and the quality comes out pretty awesome. That's an original on a tote bag. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. Wow. It's beautiful. Everyone goes crazy for it. And it's also like, you know, it's good marketing. Like, oh, where'd you get that? You can't buy it in stores. You have to go. You gotta go to my website. And it's like, oh, my friend. My car. Yeah, loved by Lula calm

needs to be updated. So don't judge. I know. You're quick to judge websites.

Wow. Okay.

Since we've been here,



Um, I'll help you with that if you need. Yeah, yeah. What? What? Why wouldn't

it just updating like photos and new stuff? You know, I have a lot of new art that I want to try to get back on. Oh, I

like the pillow things that in your house now. Oh,

no. It's mockups. Don't be really cool. Yeah, I just put I could put any piece of art on a pillow like that. Yeah. Which is something you don't really see.

No, not at all. This on a tote bag. Huge.

Yeah, it's cool. It's your chick. I should not cheesy. Yeah,

I would buy this. Yeah, that's a dude. I know. They're gonna get away with it. And mainly because I carry around like four things. I just chapstick, wallet. Phone keys. What about. What about a computer case? I could do those. Those pretty pretty good.

Yeah, like the case. I get a lot of compliments on it everywhere. Right now. She's awesome. She's my biggest fan.

It's good. I have I have I show I haven't signed on to the brutally honest podcasts and screaming like a while because I'm managing so many. And it sounds terrible. Because I need to post more on it. But I never video people because so many people I'm realizing so uncomfortable. And video, especially for the first podcast. Once they've come back for the second time. They don't care

how good quality is the video. So like,

okay, no. Oh, no. Oh, the video that I'm going to take his 4k A it can be. I mean, 10 add more than enough. But like, I would just take a little videos on my phone. So like, while you're ranting, I would just take it. And I haven't hopped on there in a while. And I was like, inundated with like dozens of comments of like, people just like, thank you so much for like, it was like their way of reaching out to me. But like, thank you so much. really keeping me occupied and like my car ride or like, Oh, my God, you're like, I appreciate that. And I was like, Wow,

it really does not wasted. Yeah, you know, like,

I was do this if nobody listened, honestly.

Yeah. Well, I

think that's, that is something that like, when you're passionate about something like zero, yeah, that that's how it should be. That's how your passion should be. You should do it because you love it. And whether you're getting paid to do it. Or, you know, whatever, if no one listens, or no one ever looks at my art. You know, it's therapeutic for you, or whatever it is. And that's what love by Lewis really is about is to, you know, obviously just for me to share the love of my art, or whatever I'm passionate about, with whoever's out there that cares. You know, if you love it, you know, or if you want something specifically, if you if you like, you know, a character that you love. Let me know what it is. I'd be happy to draw it, you know, and create something. Sure. And it will come out. I'm trying. Yeah,

I'm very curious to see like, how this like how that software works. I definitely have to look at some things.

Um, I could show you a quick video of the creation of I'll take one of those pieces. Are you interested in anything specific that I could show you?

Oh, you take videos of all of it. It was there

a time lapse rate video. So I'm gonna have a whole YouTube channel my time

because I saw a couple of time lapses. Oh, man, you're on Instagram. And I was like, Holy Jesus. And then I was wondering, like, How the hell does she do that?

It's part of the software cheating.

Just kidding. Just kidding. Uh, no. Because I'm like it because then I then I followed you. And then I started you know, perusing the the inter webs for other people that are doing similar things. And I'm like, a lot. A lot of people are doing this time lapse. And like, I do this time lapse. It's like

watching Bob Ross. You know,

it just legends never die.

It just helps them relax dinosaurs. Something it's been

65 million years. I still think about them every day.

I posted the other day. It was absolutely hysterical. Well, I think I think about every day is what I'm eating next

year, but I'll be

I'll show you one of my other biggest seller, the Batman and Catwoman. Every that was a Batman challenge that I did

was a Batman challenge.

Yeah. So I I met an artist, right?

Yeah. Oh,

yeah. Look what you get. That's something. We all have the Yeah, that's actually going to be in England. And somebody from England contacted me. And they have to have that. So I put that in the mail

with a buddy of mine. Have you ever heard of art of Andreas? No. Oh, so he's been on my podcast before. It's actually a TED speaker. pretty wild. Yeah. And he does this thing called gem dropping which is super, super interesting. So he will he takes it makes stencils. And actually this is great. I'm glad I was out of here. So you see a vinyl record up there? Yeah. So he makes a central and he buys all these old vinyls that nobody's gonna listen to her that he doesn't find interesting and buys boxes and boxes of people give them to them because you know older people have that's what they had. So nice given boxing box of these finals, like, Hey, you know, these are the vinyls that we listened to whatever these are some hit someone on hits whatever he doesn't like he puts into a box and now he makes these.

He makes these vinyls spray paints them and then writes, signs it on the back and then puts us at this handle. So whatever you know, is sort of Andreas and he drops them all over. So he's built this Instagram account on dropping

vinyl, vinyl art all over the world. Wow. So wherever he is, or wherever he's going, he will drop it.

And he's literally built this entire Instagram account. He's like, I just

more art needs to be spread throughout the world. And the fact that and before he did vinyls he talks and on the show. He talks about like, Oh, you know, I did doors. I did whatever I could get my hands on that was free just to put art on it and drop it somewhere. And now he's got like these gem chaser Jim chasers that you know, he'll take a photo of where it is. And then it's up to you. Or whoever gets sit and finds it first. And then usually you post it and say, Hey, you know, I found it, you know, keep it yo. Yeah. Oh, it's all yours. But just so cool. Like, I'm like, wow, that's like mind blowing for sure. You know, to just that's and that's his thing. And that's awesome. You know, oh my god for him. Just super super unique. I was trying to get him to do something here. But it just fell through. We just both too busy and whatnot. And I needed to start my company which is kind of important. But I want to see this time lapse now is

safe, though. Mike. Oh my

goodness. That's what I it would be even cooler. If you could see your hands going up. I mean, that's impossible. But

now a lot of artists do that. But they have to have the equipment which I'm I want to buy

where it goes over

the video camera with the iPad. I feel like that is wild. Cool.

So I will have this available my youtube channel especially if that is air so you guys could check it out to see

it in action. Thank you. You're very talented. By the way, like very you know

if you want to see my first one, my first digital or D so you can see progression. You

know what,

how many times I almost gave up his bottom. Now we're here usually the truth my artwork when I'm close to about to throw it out is usually when it's going to be the best real

and I say to myself calm down because this means that this is going to be a good one. Yes or so. That's the one part I'm so jealous of like artsy people that do like what you do because you could do it whenever you want. I look I can't do a podcast whatever I want. I usually need somebody else there otherwise it's going to be ranting all the time


honestly it's better than anything I can make that's for damn sure I'm you're dealing in a digital space digital to pen and papers, two totally different things because I don't think people understand how talented you have to be to make something digitally waiting like when you physically can touch something it's so differently people that do sculptures and stuff like that you get to physically touch it you're cheating basically because you have that real dimension who is that I know that is a doesn't storm

know. The sitar Wow. Get out

there can pick him up. But that's a pencil of her. So you could see. Yeah,

and then shaped. Like if you needed to do different things you can use. There's so many other tools you can use. You could use your finger to push you could use different thing. You know, there's so much more we're in the digital space. They computer programs. Yeah, they could probably mimic it close. That's pretty impressive.

That's the next one after the other digital that you saw. I said to myself, I need to get some. So I said no. You know, and usually different learning. You know, you could see that I progressed a little bit.

So the benefit I think that you have that is going to give you this tremendous leading edge is the fact that you have no training. Yeah, because I'm a firm believer that as good as training is training ruins people because it traps your mind.

Yeah, I feel like you rules then

it does. And that's what you know. Banksy Great example I like rip to his last piece of art that just got shredded. That dude is a savage.

Like amen to you, bro. You just one Forever


For anyone that doesn't know Banksy had a tremendously important piece of art that was framed. And after the auction had gone through the print, the painting went through and an embedded shredder inside the frame and was completely destroyed, which people are putting about. But honestly, that probably just raised the value like 100 times over. If you could just take that and mounted with like piece of tape back inside of frame that would probably make it even more valuable because he did that

it was supposed to shred entirely there was enough there was a malfunction. Oh, really only short half

really. I didn't know that. I thought for the whole thing.

I saw this cool artists that actually recreated that but a small little frame of it that could shred shred, and you could go back and forth what it is that like, it's just amazing what you can find Instagram.

You can find anything on insert. I follow a couple best people at Instagram

that all do different things. But just what people think about like, it's it's the fact that you know, you don't have training, which gives you the freedom to do like, whatever you want, like people like, Oh, you know, you should like learn how to podcast correctly. Or, you know, Mike, what am I doing wrong? Like, I don't know, but you should learn. And I'm like, Well, if I learned from somebody else, that's great. But if they like Teach me like how podcasting supposed to happen, now, I'm kind of trapped. I can't just figure things out, you know, like prime example. So the audio is probably not going to be the greatest in the beginning. So now I have to overcome that problem. Which makes you better. But if I just immediately went in and said, if it's not set up perfectly every single time, what do you really learning?

Right, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Be a little more proud of what you put out after, you know, overcoming all of these things and learning along the way from us. I'm also I feel like a lot more relatable to people like they see me as not so high up there that I'm not approachable, you know, that they could see never lose them. So most important thing

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because my art is not up to that level, of course, but it's definitely somewhere where they can see like, Oh, you know, maybe one day I can learn

or I got a question for you. What makes your art different than super high end art

in my mind,

because I don't think there's any difference.

That's very nice. You very nice. You also have to do some. I mean, I just I've seen them. I've been next I was next to a master artists

makes him a master.

Honestly, the study sounds like Andrew says, oh, what's the difference? You're right there? Like,

there is no difference between my podcast right Google and somebody else.

I'll show you. I'll show you a master rags are a G 's. I was very lucky to meet him and sit next to him. Morales Mo. Sa ra l e. s because his anatomy or his you could just feel like his soul in his artwork. I swear, I get that from you, though. Oh, I see. But I agree. So.

So I like his stuff. I'm like, I'm flipping through. So we're looking dude. But I'm like, you can very nice. You could tell. But I'm like, it almost looks to done.

I think that's what I'm trying to say is that sometimes when things are like, so professional, it's like, I want to talk to that person. Like, like, out of this world kind of stuff. So.

So I take photos of my drone as as you know, and and I really don't do you have a phantom four? There's a broken one right there. That cost me $2,000. That's what happened. So many friends. win them over with quarter. That's

the Phantom four. I think that's the one film for

and then there's another one of the backpack that's a brand new and then I got after that one. And you're

certified. I got to talk to you about that. That's

Yeah, we will talk show. Is that off air on there?

That's off the record. Okay. Well, Andrew, my husband, he's a bit when you interview him. He didn't want to talk to you. That's cool. Um,

but like people like, you know, you see these super high end photographs. I don't know if you're familiar 500 px. It's a website that people can upload. I don't know if it's art, all art, or just photography, photography mostly. But like these artists that have these like, super outrageously high end pictures. And I'm like, okay, that's really cool. Like, you do know what you're doing with your camera. You know how to keep long exposures had account for darkness and all these different things. And I so and I do do a bit of photography myself. But I'm like, you are obviously a complete Nutter master. But your artists so good, that one, it can never be replicated, which is ok. But to it almost takes away from the originality and the nature of the picture. Like, let me just show you a picture. So you have an idea because it might be a little hard to grasp.

But that's what I think is so important about your art. What you're doing is, you know, do you could there always be more detail, you can detail the hell out of anything, but it's making, you know, those those pictures to where it's like, it's still fun. It's inviting. It's interesting. It's cool. Like, I'm like, Oh, you know, it's like a rapper. You know, everybody likes the rapper before they get famous most the time. And then once they get famous, their stuff don't goes totally sideways, because the money gets involved and people get involved in this. That building like this dude. Ray Morales rags Morales like you could tell his stuff is like, wow, it's really impressive. But I'm like, yeah, you might see a soul but I'm like, I just look it looks like a really professionally done piece of art that

he's like. So he's hired to draw out that those character of course,

but I wouldn't pay money for that. Because it just doesn't like sparked my interest. This I'm like, you could tell somebody dumped their loving heart and soul into like, that's the difference to me.

That's love by like, you know, like he's getting

he's getting paid to do it. And you are doing this for the pure

you're doing your job. I love these characters. You know, I love

this one. This is actually the the the face that's on my Instagram handle the profile pic. This artist, his name is Michael Turner. And he passed away in 2008. And he was iconic to the comic book industry. And he influenced a lot of artists, because he took eyes and women and men in the comic book world to a whole different level. It's just you could just tell a pieces of Michael Turner, you know, you could definitely see his style and everything he did. So

I was a big fan of his before I stopped going, you know, stop the whole comic comic book thing. So to have the ability to take my pencil drawings from the past, I always wanted to draw like him. And now bring it into digital and edit and play around with the eyes. Because to try to make it so perfect. Like his, that I can make the eye a little smaller or bigger, or tweak it with a digital, you know, medium, it's, it's just so it makes me so happy to be able to do that. Because as a kid, you always want to draw like that. But you you don't have the tools to do it. Now we do have it. It's, it's amazing. Really. So like,

this is a great example if it loads here. So like

that picture is sick. And it's a picture of like, the sky with like, the trees, which is really cool. And I totally get that but like looks like a place so well. Exactly. It almost takes the realist realism out of it. Like you don't actually see that so now you're breaking down the board the boundaries of like, so my dad is a graphic designer and stuff like that. So like I had him edit a couple of my pieces that I'm hopefully going to be showing so sad company I say yeah, I'm that's on that computer. I gotta pull that one up. But the unlike Dad, I appreciate you editing these. But we've broken into the realm of the now it doesn't look like us. Like it's mine. I took the photo, like everything that is on that photo is mine. The positioning you know the exposure, all that kind of stuff is mine. But unlike

when you can like make the sun bigger than it really is. And change the color of the sky a little bit which is fine. There's there's some minor details but then you have the underlining and the undertones that are that that now pop in the real color the grass and I'm like well if the sun's that orange. The grasses like shouldn't be that green you know and like you look at it originally nearly home. I it's kind of like this guy's already like oh my god. That's amazing. And then you're like wait,

but there's something off here. Like you don't know what it is. But then you look at the real photo and like that's what it really looks like. That's what this really looks like. It's not like oh my god. It looks like it's just somebody that paid to do it though. It's that you know in the moment that love for it. That makes the whole difference between it. Thank that's my that's my thoughts. There was a lot what about this guy?

What is this? So that's my interpretation of an amazing artists that did the Batman who laughs So there's a multiverse for Batman this new character called the Batman who laughs and that's where the Joker is actually I guess taking over Batman so it's like an evil Batman and that's Robin being tortured by him.

So that came from a cover done by I believe his name is Francisco Matina, and that is when I started to play around with the reds and getting in deeper lighting. You could see highlights that are around the grooves of his or his Malcolm's I really wanted to try to and I was never good at teat. So I wanted to learn how to do teach and all that. So I had to use that photo as a reference. And, you know, there's no, I don't think you could see loving, there's a lot of sweat and tears.

And that's the, you know,

especially a bigger person like rags, you never going to see his older stuff. You'll never ever and it and it even if you do come across something, you know that he does you, you know, even if it's on the fly, it's still gonna look so that way, like the Marvel way or the comic

way earlier

where you know what, you know, I would definitely consider you a professional comic at this point. Really? Oh, absolutely. No doubt about it. But you know, you you have that there's so much potential like, like this, I don't have somebody that's like, Oh, your podcast, you have to cover this. And you have to cover this. And you have to cover this, you know, you could tell that there's some kind of, there's money influence in that because it's not him, you know, hey, you're paid to make these characters look like this. And Superman has to look like this. Like, where you are putting down whatever you want. Which makes which makes you when, you know, if my podcast if I had somebody else in to do this, you gotta put this, you know, you're gonna have this person and you get you got to interview this person. Well, it's not an interview, as you are realizing. You know, it takes away from that the human aspect.

Yeah, exactly. You know,

where you, you know, I learned every to every time I go through a podcast, you know, you guys are easy. There's some people that I get on my podcast that they don't talk or like, they're unbelievably guarded, either guarded or Mike fright. Or they think that I'm trying to go after them. And I'm like, we're just here to hang out. Like, that's why I have booths big for the sole reason of alcohol is the greatest thing and opening people up, sometimes get a little carried away. But that's fine. So you know, that aspect of it is every single time I'm doing one of these, yes, I could use sales tactics and stuff like that to try to end as those right questions. But it kind of separates the realness from like what I'm trying to get. So trying to find what people like to talk about us the for that, Michael

Absolutely. You're great. It's an art to have a conversation with someone. Yes, it really Yes.

I learned that

I learned that it's not something you should you know, and her a lot of people that stinky. Yeah, I used to. Yeah, yeah,

I learned cell phone was the death of real conversation. Absolutely.


absolutely. It's, it's so sad. It's so sad. The I mean, it's great that there's so much knowledge and connection, everything you can have, right there, like seconds away. But like when you unfortunately, your phone, you know, you probably realize when you're drawing because you're drawing on this electronic device that it just soaks you when you're like, Oh my god, you know, it

was a dark side to it. You know, just like with social media, there's a dark, dark side to it. You know, the light side, obviously, is that people can help elevate you. And you can connect with amazing people. Oh, you could just

be attacked via or

attacked and your whole career because just fall apart. Yeah. Right. So it's that perfect balance with anything.

Sure. Sure.

Yeah. So much of anything is no good.

No, I agree. I couldn't agree more. But, you know, that's and that's back to like, what, what it is, you know, once you get to that point where it's like, Okay, I'm a professional artist, or whatever defines you as a professional, you know, great, but once the money influence, you know, Hey, want you to only draw these people I only want you to draw this and when you're restricted and you put boundaries on that's when all the creativity is gone. I think you know, okay, great. You You're great at drawing Superman. Well, that's cool. What else can you draw? I can't draw anything I've pretty much all I'm drawn to it man for 10 years now.

And that's what I tried to steer away from so you'll see a lot of the Disney Princess influences your online and then you'll see the dark scary sure Hellraiser style. I like it. You know,

I try to just have that open palette for anyone could, they can see something in my art that, you know, appeals to them. It's part of, you know, part of me, I like I enjoy drawing these characters. Like this was a big hit Snake Eyes.

It's it's just something that a lot of people love. And they they remembered a character from when they were younger. And for me to take it and put it on a huge canvas. You know, they go crazy for it's something that a fling catches your eye. Yeah. So I enjoy drawing anything that from the 80s especially.

And then I plan on doing a few pieces that I have lined up now that the show is over looking to get more into the masters of the universe. So he man and all those characters that's best done their cats again, actually have a list because I have everything written.

Did you ever? Have you ever heard of a trading card game called Magic? The Gathering?


it's a whole different world.

What was that reaction? ex boyfriend but the art on those little things are sick.

So Are those the ones that go with a little pieces to that people used to paint the little? Maybe not. Now this is like cards

and dice cars and cards and dice and different First of all, it's one of my favorite games. Really? Mainly card games. Oh, absolutely.

You're probably one of the guys that speaks right. The head guy that tells the stories what I mean. Isn't that maybe I'm thinking Dungeons and Dragons. The guy that tells

you like, play each other?

Yeah, strategies. tactics. I gotta,

you gotta tell stories. One

has its own custom piece of art. And it's not like Pokemon. Nothing against Pokemon cards or anything like that. But it's like, you know, there's this very cartoonish. Like, these are some like stupidly realistic. Yeah, we're like, very

Lord of the Rings. Like a cool

Yeah, like just the art on these cards. Like, if you ever like interested in seeing like some of it the next time your target, they sell them a target and just look for a magic magic gathering and

put just the art that these guys put into it is like, where do they even possibly get it all like, it's just so incredible that each one has its own little piece of art may come up with hundreds and hundreds of these pieces every year or so

happy, you know, fans that are artists, you know,

who knows? I mean, I don't know I have no idea.

Their artwork, right? And then they take it.

Yeah, I don't know. But it's it's just it's very unique.

Cool. I'll check out for sure. I spent way too much time

I'm not like a frequent that. But it was definitely my favorite High School

cards. I would pick out cool dice that I liked in that would make him by me the dice for making me go to that thing. And then when we broke up, I left all the day. So I don't even have

to all the dice. Yeah, but very cool. If you ever if you ever looking for like different things. Yeah, for sure. I'll check it out. Just that was one thing I was always obsessed with. I was like, Yes, a cool game. I'm not that good at it. Because I'm just not that good at like strategies and tactics and stuff definitely would not be a general in the military. But I will tell you very impressed with what they do.

So this I have to ask about this piece, because it's printed on very nice paper.

Oh, thank you.

What is this?

So that's basically he man's mom, the sorceress. The bird lady. Sure. Yeah. So I have I'm trying to do a whole line of the canvases. Now my question is, Why did I choose dramatic effect?

Know why is it so skinny? and small? The,


lots of white space?

Yeah, it was printed out like that. I'm sorry. Don't be so I'm just the canvas is pretty cool. It's 10 by 26. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's that's just like a sample of it.

Okay. Yeah, I gotcha.

But on the canvas, it's pretty cool and it's actually hanging in

your crazy talented I don't care what anybody says.

Thanks. I like her eyes. She does eyes

Yeah, yeah, you do good eyes. Good eyes. Do you mirror the eyes? Do you like Oh no. You definitely don't. Because there's white in here and there's no way in there


That was the only thing I can't I can't draw people I could draw like everything else. Not that I'm like the most talented but if I definitely sat down and tried I could probably draw a lot yeah. Oh, I love dogs. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Secret secret hobby of mine.

When I get an iPad

I know I do. I do. I do so many things. Things already like last night I'm here to like one o'clock in the morning that's why I sleep till 1110 o'clock like people call me in the morning like hey what's up

you know either business this that the other thing I'm like, you gotta give me like an hour I just woke up out of bed like why and I was like, because I was up till 130 in the morning that's why you get emails at 130 in the morning from me and you know I'm still working on that but uh

well let me set up a sketchbook page for you so that you can do a little quick sketch for me

oh god oh god. Nothing like being put on the spot

that's it then she lets me do it all on it sometimes it's so you can actually ends the pen now this is extra okay because my hand started to get that that indent.

Yes, the artists bump Oh,

and it gets painful after a lot of our

by the way. We have a moment of sounds for script

script. You know, I used and Google Plus.

Well, shutting it down. Really? Damn God. What a waste of shut down from day one. Um, no. I I use I could never write my my writing writing me but cursive. Oh, I was a wizard. I could write. I could. I could script fest and I could write and my mom's I think we should do this after because there's gonna be a long pause while I'm trying to draw but

I mean, just get you set up in whatever you want to do it all. Yeah. So um, so now I've been I've did I've done this to to another artists, I've given it to them. And they actually went and bought an iPad now. So Oh, it's just a matter of when I'm gonna feel it. It'll happen the next week. Dare invest in it. It'll happen telling the

credit card you know, like, so I'll give you some behind the scenes of what I'm working on. Because we're both friends. Now.

I am in the process of building an online course which is taking a ungodly amount of time on what I'm actually going to be putting together a course for real estate individuals to

help them build their own brands. Cool. Yeah. So it'll basically be coaching them through building their own brands and how to effectively sell real estate better you should teach at live or what's live for

long on board of realtors

I probably should do that

you're always looking for workshops and events and just you gotta get in with each chamber know does all different sexual of Long Island you gotta get with the chamber heads and meet up with them and talk to them. Just my

little advice? No, absolutely appreciate that.

Because that you could pull in about 50 to 100 people sure, that would be interested.

Um, so I'm in the process of doing that, how to build an online brand, how to sell houses more effectively, and how to get the word out to everybody and stuff like that. Because I've realized that there's a pretty hardcore separation of

between people that want to sell real estate and not not knowing not so much not knowing how to do it selling a house that can do it's getting in front of the right people they're having a hard time with. And I'm like, Oh, that's interesting. I've already talked to hundreds of real estate people that I've seen what's effective and not effective. And I've listened to about 1000 episodes of

bigger pockets podcast, okay, and bigger pockets. And I'm like, Oh, I'm starting to see it. Now. I'm starting to talk to like, all these different people. And I'm like, Oh, I can teach people I do all this stuff. Because I come from the technology and the marketing side and this could all work absolutely

know how to deliver. Yes, yes. And help people actually digested easily. That's key.

Yes. So that's one thing I'm working on. The next thing I'm working on this I'm toying around the idea of starting another podcast, not that I have any less out any more hours of my day, but a niche down podcast. Okay, so I'm probably gonna do something along the lines of firefighter I think Yeah, so I'm curious to know how I'm going to do it. And I still going to put all the pieces in place and stuff like that and my guests because I don't want to just sit there and talk right

right. Um,